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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-5251</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I didn&#039;t get offended by &quot;yuppie foodie scum&quot; because I don&#039;t consider myself in that category at all, so I&#039;m not going to get all defensive about it, hahaha...but I will say that it&#039;s offensive for someone to group Chianti&#039;s in with the Old Spaghetti Factory and Anton&#039;s.  Chianti&#039;s was much better than that (though to be honest, I hadn&#039;t gone in years, even though I generally had a good impression of them).  The food was tasty, simple (as Italian food is at it&#039;s best), and good value for what you were paying.  No, it wasn&#039;t spectacular, but it wasn&#039;t Spaghetti Factory.   Let&#039;s have a little respect for the dead.  By the way, I ate at Trattoria, and it hadn&#039;t been open long, so there were some issues (and hell yah, it was filled to the brim with yuppie scum...I say that affectionately though, lol) like long waits and my fig dessert was actually brought out without figs, and it took some convincing for me to actually get my figs in the end (and they didn&#039;t comp it after the screw up), but I could see a lot of potential once they get into the swing of things.  Food was quite good, but it also cost quite a bit more, so it better be good.  I&#039;m not rushing right back, but I wouldn&#039;t be opposed if someone were to suggest the place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I didn&#8217;t get offended by &#8220;yuppie foodie scum&#8221; because I don&#8217;t consider myself in that category at all, so I&#8217;m not going to get all defensive about it, hahaha&#8230;but I will say that it&#8217;s offensive for someone to group Chianti&#8217;s in with the Old Spaghetti Factory and Anton&#8217;s.  Chianti&#8217;s was much better than that (though to be honest, I hadn&#8217;t gone in years, even though I generally had a good impression of them).  The food was tasty, simple (as Italian food is at it&#8217;s best), and good value for what you were paying.  No, it wasn&#8217;t spectacular, but it wasn&#8217;t Spaghetti Factory.   Let&#8217;s have a little respect for the dead.  By the way, I ate at Trattoria, and it hadn&#8217;t been open long, so there were some issues (and hell yah, it was filled to the brim with yuppie scum&#8230;I say that affectionately though, lol) like long waits and my fig dessert was actually brought out without figs, and it took some convincing for me to actually get my figs in the end (and they didn&#8217;t comp it after the screw up), but I could see a lot of potential once they get into the swing of things.  Food was quite good, but it also cost quite a bit more, so it better be good.  I&#8217;m not rushing right back, but I wouldn&#8217;t be opposed if someone were to suggest the place.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-3216</link>
		<dc:creator>Norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s hope the people pushed out of Alberni Street didn&#039;t find haven on 4th Avenue.</description>
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		<title>By: Elena Kazimirova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elena Kazimirova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just had dinner at the another gem under glowball restaurant umbrella - Trattoria Italian Kitchen.  We walked in with no reservation and got the best table at the window and later got &quot;upgraded&quot; to the patio.  The staff is trying to accomodate every request. The manager was coming by each table  making sure the guest are happy, helping wit the menu and often personally delivered dishes.  The place is of a warm and modern decor with open kitchen, private and community tables The menu consists of light mediterranean fare very delicate flavors.Small portions perfect for ordering several items and sharing.  We were delightedby the delicately marinated beef carpacio, veal cutlets and beets and arugula salad.  Do not miss mushroom bruchettas right out of the oven. panna cotta was light and creamy and chocolate graham cake completed the evening.  The wine selection is superb - I would recommend light italian prosecco.  This place is a delight can&#039;t wait to go back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had dinner at the another gem under glowball restaurant umbrella &#8211; Trattoria Italian Kitchen.  We walked in with no reservation and got the best table at the window and later got &#8220;upgraded&#8221; to the patio.  The staff is trying to accomodate every request. The manager was coming by each table  making sure the guest are happy, helping wit the menu and often personally delivered dishes.  The place is of a warm and modern decor with open kitchen, private and community tables The menu consists of light mediterranean fare very delicate flavors.Small portions perfect for ordering several items and sharing.  We were delightedby the delicately marinated beef carpacio, veal cutlets and beets and arugula salad.  Do not miss mushroom bruchettas right out of the oven. panna cotta was light and creamy and chocolate graham cake completed the evening.  The wine selection is superb &#8211; I would recommend light italian prosecco.  This place is a delight can&#8217;t wait to go back</p>
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		<title>By: UrbanDiner.ca &#124; Vancouver Restaurant Scene Magazine &#187; Trattoria Italian Kitchen Now Open On 4th</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-3059</link>
		<dc:creator>UrbanDiner.ca &#124; Vancouver Restaurant Scene Magazine &#187; Trattoria Italian Kitchen Now Open On 4th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new restaurant from the Glowbal Group, dubbed Trattoria Italian Kitchen, opened tonight at 1850 West 4th. Nice looking place. I was impressed by the food that was being [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] new restaurant from the Glowbal Group, dubbed Trattoria Italian Kitchen, opened tonight at 1850 West 4th. Nice looking place. I was impressed by the food that was being [...]</p>
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		<title>By: UrbanDiner.ca &#124; Vancouver Restaurant Scene Magazine &#187; Sneaking A Peek At 4th&#8217;s Trattoria Italian Kitchen</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-2562</link>
		<dc:creator>UrbanDiner.ca &#124; Vancouver Restaurant Scene Magazine &#187; Sneaking A Peek At 4th&#8217;s Trattoria Italian Kitchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 06:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] boarded up frontage at the upcoming Trattoria Italian Kitchen on West 4th had a door ajar tonight. En route to a lovely meat and beer dinner at Fuel, I snapped [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] boarded up frontage at the upcoming Trattoria Italian Kitchen on West 4th had a door ajar tonight. En route to a lovely meat and beer dinner at Fuel, I snapped [...]</p>
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		<title>By: UrbanDiner.ca &#124; Vancouver Restaurant Scene Magazine &#187; Trattoria Italian Kitchen Coming in June</title>
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		<dc:creator>UrbanDiner.ca &#124; Vancouver Restaurant Scene Magazine &#187; Trattoria Italian Kitchen Coming in June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 20:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Byford, GM and partner at the Glowbal Group&#8217;s Italian Kitchen, and he says West 4th&#8217;s Trattoria Italian Kitchen should be ready to go by the second week of June. If the contractor stays on schedule, he might [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Byford, GM and partner at the Glowbal Group&#8217;s Italian Kitchen, and he says West 4th&#8217;s Trattoria Italian Kitchen should be ready to go by the second week of June. If the contractor stays on schedule, he might [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vance</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-2092</link>
		<dc:creator>Vance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are lots of affordable places to eat in Vancouver, especially if you&#039;re into ethnic food. Just look east of Ontario Street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are lots of affordable places to eat in Vancouver, especially if you&#8217;re into ethnic food. Just look east of Ontario Street.</p>
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		<title>By: Chocoholic</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-1068</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocoholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Restaurants in Vancouver fall into two broad categories. Those opened for the food, usually by chef/owners and those for the scene and money. Places like Aurora, Fuel, Boneta et al fall into the first category, the Glowbal group restaurants fall into the second.

When I want good food I go to the first, when I want to hang out with my buddies, have a few drinks, look at pretty people and not necessarily care about the food, I got to the second.

There is a place for both in Vancouver, budgets and political reasons be damned :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Restaurants in Vancouver fall into two broad categories. Those opened for the food, usually by chef/owners and those for the scene and money. Places like Aurora, Fuel, Boneta et al fall into the first category, the Glowbal group restaurants fall into the second.</p>
<p>When I want good food I go to the first, when I want to hang out with my buddies, have a few drinks, look at pretty people and not necessarily care about the food, I got to the second.</p>
<p>There is a place for both in Vancouver, budgets and political reasons be damned :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Tequila For Breakfast and Glowbal For Trat &#171; UrbanDiner.ca &#124; Vancouver Restaurant Scene Magazine</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-1070</link>
		<dc:creator>Tequila For Breakfast and Glowbal For Trat &#171; UrbanDiner.ca &#124; Vancouver Restaurant Scene Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Glowbal Group has informed us that their new restaurant on West 4th will be a laid back Italian trattoria. The name is still in the works but they&#8217;re [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Glowbal Group has informed us that their new restaurant on West 4th will be a laid back Italian trattoria. The name is still in the works but they&#8217;re [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tamtam</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-1069</link>
		<dc:creator>tamtam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I want a nice dinner &quot;experience&quot; and sometimes I&#039;m just hungry, have no food at home and need some dinner in my tummy!

Best way to judge what kind of place it is before you commit to dining there?  Check the proportion of grey heads in the restaurant.  Seniors know where the good value is.  But if it&#039;s all seniors, run away (buffet dining!!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I want a nice dinner &#8220;experience&#8221; and sometimes I&#8217;m just hungry, have no food at home and need some dinner in my tummy!</p>
<p>Best way to judge what kind of place it is before you commit to dining there?  Check the proportion of grey heads in the restaurant.  Seniors know where the good value is.  But if it&#8217;s all seniors, run away (buffet dining!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: jahvay</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-1071</link>
		<dc:creator>jahvay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree some of his points are valid.  Sadly Vancouver does not have as many great cheap joints/hole in the walls as older cities like Montreal, New York, or even most cities in USA.  We love our new joints, We love our Italiano slant on all,  and tend to ignore old places sometimes.  Thankfully all of the new places being openned by the youth of our industry are actually not serving foccacia/Tira Misu, but being creative and cutting edge.

There is always room for cheaper places serving good food.  Mediocre is never good.

UD is a great tool to use to find good food in all prices.  A discussion recently on taco joints is evidence.

Having grown up at 1st/Collingwood, I know 4th avenue, and sadly it is a bit to Yuppee for me.  I much prefer Broadway bettween Stephens, and Alma.  Many more independant businesses, although the yupee scene is creeping in.  Thus I ended owning a home in the Commercial Drive area.  It is 4th avenue circa 1972 all over again.  Also lots of cheap joints.

10 years ago the grunge were up in arms because of the new better places openning on the drive.  They wanted to keep it grungy.  10 years later we are welcoming Me and Julios, Carthage, Timbre,Charlatten etc...

Authentic what?

Yeah, his points are valid, but to call us all Yupee food scum/assholes.  Yeah it is getting pricey, and it helps to be rich.

But my reaction is not laughable.  I call you an asshole, and I suspect your reaction will not be laughable.

Thank god the Old Spaghetti place will always be there for those who want cheap/mediocre food and are too bitter to search out the reasonable gems serving cheap food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree some of his points are valid.  Sadly Vancouver does not have as many great cheap joints/hole in the walls as older cities like Montreal, New York, or even most cities in USA.  We love our new joints, We love our Italiano slant on all,  and tend to ignore old places sometimes.  Thankfully all of the new places being openned by the youth of our industry are actually not serving foccacia/Tira Misu, but being creative and cutting edge.</p>
<p>There is always room for cheaper places serving good food.  Mediocre is never good.</p>
<p>UD is a great tool to use to find good food in all prices.  A discussion recently on taco joints is evidence.</p>
<p>Having grown up at 1st/Collingwood, I know 4th avenue, and sadly it is a bit to Yuppee for me.  I much prefer Broadway bettween Stephens, and Alma.  Many more independant businesses, although the yupee scene is creeping in.  Thus I ended owning a home in the Commercial Drive area.  It is 4th avenue circa 1972 all over again.  Also lots of cheap joints.</p>
<p>10 years ago the grunge were up in arms because of the new better places openning on the drive.  They wanted to keep it grungy.  10 years later we are welcoming Me and Julios, Carthage, Timbre,Charlatten etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Authentic what?</p>
<p>Yeah, his points are valid, but to call us all Yupee food scum/assholes.  Yeah it is getting pricey, and it helps to be rich.</p>
<p>But my reaction is not laughable.  I call you an asshole, and I suspect your reaction will not be laughable.</p>
<p>Thank god the Old Spaghetti place will always be there for those who want cheap/mediocre food and are too bitter to search out the reasonable gems serving cheap food.</p>
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		<title>By: Mano</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator>Mano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually ate at Chiant&#039;s for the first time a few months ago with a friend on his recomendation. I found it to be pretty good and busy. I also wondered how they could survive with these prices? (it was their cheap pasta night). I guess I got my answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually ate at Chiant&#8217;s for the first time a few months ago with a friend on his recomendation. I found it to be pretty good and busy. I also wondered how they could survive with these prices? (it was their cheap pasta night). I guess I got my answer.</p>
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		<title>By: kontemporary</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-1074</link>
		<dc:creator>kontemporary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 07:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I disagree with the tone, it is indicative of creeping gentrification that is happening all over Vancouver. Sure, tons of notable restaurants are opening up, how many of them are upscale and high-end? It does not fit into the median income, or better yet, the average income from wage-labourers in Vancouver. Our fastest growing industry is the F&amp;B &quot;service&quot; industry - which, no matter how well you want to dress it up, is unskilled labour. Job growth is great, but these jobs are construction and serving rich folks their food. Not the best way to make a living in the world, but what else do retiring baby boomers need to maximize their West Coast lifestyle?

So Fred, spare the political commentary because Vancouver is no longer an affordable place for the &quot;unsuccessful&quot;. If a glamourous retirement home where the largest industry is F&amp;B (aka Victoria BC?) serves to your interest, then you shouldn&#039;t be one to call socialists the ones who lash out at the &quot;successful&quot;.

I have little doubt that the Glowbal Group will be successful. It probably just means former Vancouverites moving to Surrey in order to pay rent. Not everyone owns multiple properties to live off of, or seasonal ownership in a Whistler cabin, or an investment portfolio managed by UBS. It&#039;s a self-delusion that the average Vancouverite in their goal for Vancouver to become a &quot;world-class city&quot; will ironically displace them from it. This, of course, excludes the population already having been displaced living in the DTES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I disagree with the tone, it is indicative of creeping gentrification that is happening all over Vancouver. Sure, tons of notable restaurants are opening up, how many of them are upscale and high-end? It does not fit into the median income, or better yet, the average income from wage-labourers in Vancouver. Our fastest growing industry is the F&amp;B &#8220;service&#8221; industry &#8211; which, no matter how well you want to dress it up, is unskilled labour. Job growth is great, but these jobs are construction and serving rich folks their food. Not the best way to make a living in the world, but what else do retiring baby boomers need to maximize their West Coast lifestyle?</p>
<p>So Fred, spare the political commentary because Vancouver is no longer an affordable place for the &#8220;unsuccessful&#8221;. If a glamourous retirement home where the largest industry is F&amp;B (aka Victoria BC?) serves to your interest, then you shouldn&#8217;t be one to call socialists the ones who lash out at the &#8220;successful&#8221;.</p>
<p>I have little doubt that the Glowbal Group will be successful. It probably just means former Vancouverites moving to Surrey in order to pay rent. Not everyone owns multiple properties to live off of, or seasonal ownership in a Whistler cabin, or an investment portfolio managed by UBS. It&#8217;s a self-delusion that the average Vancouverite in their goal for Vancouver to become a &#8220;world-class city&#8221; will ironically displace them from it. This, of course, excludes the population already having been displaced living in the DTES.</p>
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		<title>By: cellarmaster</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-1073</link>
		<dc:creator>cellarmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a place that served nothing but leftovers (always taste better re-heated the next day).

They could call it &quot;sloppy seconds&quot; or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a place that served nothing but leftovers (always taste better re-heated the next day).</p>
<p>They could call it &#8220;sloppy seconds&#8221; or something.</p>
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		<title>By: girlcook</title>
		<link>http://urbandiner.ca/2007/11/30/glowbal-coming-to-kits/comment-page-1/#comment-1075</link>
		<dc:creator>girlcook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 04:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nod to FatBoy....

I would personally applaud a bit of risk taking on the part of the Global Group, perhaps a commited focus on &#039;great&#039; food?

To their credit, they have been so successful at creating... atmospheres, that now, I would like to see a culinary jewl in their crown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nod to FatBoy&#8230;.</p>
<p>I would personally applaud a bit of risk taking on the part of the Global Group, perhaps a commited focus on &#8216;great&#8217; food?</p>
<p>To their credit, they have been so successful at creating&#8230; atmospheres, that now, I would like to see a culinary jewl in their crown.</p>
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